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Lackerall

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 Speed Training
So I've come to the conclusion that in order to build my speed I'm going to work at a solo over an extended period of time...i'm not really fast...yet...I hope to be one day. I think the key to speed is just practicing and building up technique and coordination, so here's my plan...The solo I'm working on is Whispers in the Dark by Skillet, check it out if you get the time please  . But here's my plan, starting out with the solo playing at 50 bpm...which is all I can do right now, work on it everyday and gradually increase the speed...4bpm per week...I'm thinking, I don't get to practice as hard as i'd like everyday, that's why it's kinda slow...I don't know. If you have any comments, suggestions or anything please say something, you guys give great advice and have helped me quite a bit. 4bpm gets me done with the solo by May 1st, we're doing our first "show" ever. I'ts for a bunch of people we know so it's going to be kind of fun, and getting up to speed is going to be crucial. Please give your input, thank you so much guys and gals. Rock on!
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:26 pm |
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BrotherLawson

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Sounds like you've got the formula down.
start slow, gradually increase.
don't get frustrated, though, if it seems like you're taking longer than you'd like. it'll come to you. it's like a zen thing: open up and relax and it happens.
then you think about it, get excited and fk up.
that's me anyway
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:31 pm |
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Lackerall

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k...it's just isn't it natural to get frustruated? what do I do when I get like that, leave for like 10 minutes grab a snack or drink and then go back and try again...I'm not certain?
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:33 pm |
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straitjacket85

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cut the solo part into 4 and work on it in little groups even or more would help like the beginning to the bends from the bends until the pause and the rest
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:39 pm |
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BrotherLawson

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Well, what I do is go smoke a cigarette in the sunshine.
Hippie alert:
Sounds silly, but I've noticed if I sit in the Sun for a few minutes and reflect on only good things (no guitar thoughts, unless they are positive), I feel better.
In fact, my wife was telling me that some book she read (like, A Billion Steps to a New You, or some such shit) said if you take a walk in the sunshine for a few minutes everyday, your mood will improve.
I tried it, and it works.
Except I don't walk. I sit in the porch swing, that's not on the porch, so technically it's just a swing. In fact, I don't have a porch. Just a step.  Sorry. Sometimes I like to get silly.
It works, though.
I'll take my acoustic and sit in the swing and play. Very relaxing, you know. Just the dogs and the birds and me in my porch swing that isn't on a porch.
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:42 pm |
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Lackerall

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i guess my big question here is...is this enough time to do this? Is it too much time? Could I do this? If I could get this solo by May I'd be the most stoked person ever, it'd be like my guitar dreams coming true right before my fingers...like should the pace be more/less/or is it good? I do break it down into sections...
1.) begginning (start to right before the slides up the neck)
2.) 1st middle (slides up the neck to right before big hammer and pull part)
3.) 2nd middle (hammer/pull)
4.) last (sustained note then quick part)
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:45 pm |
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BrotherLawson

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It sounds like a good plan.
Breaking it down is an excellent idea, Todd.
Just take it at what ever pace you can handle. With patience and diligence, I would think you could accomplish it.
Let us know how you're coming along.
Why are you still reading this?
You've got a solo to shred.
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:49 pm |
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andy

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BrotherLawson wrote:Well, what I do is go smoke a cigarette in the sunshine.
Hippie alert:
Sounds silly, but I've noticed if I sit in the Sun for a few minutes and reflect on only good things (no guitar thoughts, unless they are positive), I feel better.
In fact, my wife was telling me that some book she read (like, A Billion Steps to a New You, or some such shit) said if you take a walk in the sunshine for a few minutes everyday, your mood will improve.
I tried it, and it works.
Except I don't walk. I sit in the porch swing, that's not on the porch, so technically it's just a swing. In fact, I don't have a porch. Just a step. Sorry. Sometimes I like to get silly.
It works, though.
I'll take my acoustic and sit in the swing and play. Very relaxing, you know. Just the dogs and the birds and me in my porch swing that isn't on a porch.
I wanna hang out at your place! A little porch jam session.
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:49 pm |
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BrotherLawson

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I drink Pepsi and smoke Camel Wides.
Just show up and we'll do some porch blues.
Except I don't have a porch. Just a step.
But I do have a swing... 2 seater!
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:52 pm |
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Lackerall

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well i'm getting ready to go to bed...grrr... 2:00 here, work tomorrow till 8:00 pm then work on english paper till 10:00 then practice for 2 hours, not a great plan, but I'm getting rid of my weekend hours so I can practice more guitar  haha, but that is kinda why. But yeah the solo is pretty much all I'll be working on, that and chords, but that's normal, and I def. will keep you guys updated thanks.
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:54 pm |
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BrotherLawson

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Good luck, bud
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Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:05 am |
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straitjacket85

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you have 2 months plenty of time to get it down. when breaking it down seems to make it like you are getting somewhere as if you try the whole thing it won't look like you are stuck. I read about doing it in one of the guitar magazines...lol
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Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:48 am |
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BrotherLawson

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straitjacket85 wrote:you have 2 months plenty of time to get it down. when breaking it down seems to make it like you are getting somewhere as if you try the whole thing it won't look like you are stuck. I read about doing it in one of the guitar magazines...lol
Where would we be without Andy Aledort?
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Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:56 am |
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straitjacket85

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lol did he say do to do that also
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Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:59 am |
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mikejcolavolpe

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If ur trying to build up speed, seek out Sal Salvador's Single String Studies For Guitar. Cop that book and you'll be building chops in no time. Very efficient and sounds like exactly what you need. The whole transcribing faster solos thing is cool too, but this is something beyond learning someone else's licks and it'll teach u a bit about harmony as well. Or probably the best advice would be, once u find that book..find a nasty, fast, ambidextrious drummer to play with, one who is just always implying double time even when inappropriate. At that point u HAVE TO play fast, just to keep up, but it seems to happen organicly, that was my experience anyway. After playing with a super fast drummer for a few months you'll be smoking by default, it just seems to happen that way. Hope this helps. Peace
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