are we in the golden age of guitars ?
look around at all of the high quality , AFFORDABLE , guitars available today....the choices are amazing.

true , most of these guitars are asian ....but i dont really care WHERE a guitar is made , i care how it plays and sounds.

and have there ever been MORE sweet looking and playing guitars to choose from ?
not that i know of ....

and for the high dollar models ....if you got the cash , they got your guitar.
if you can think it, they can build it.

never has it been easier to buy a great sounding ,smooth playing ,and hot looking guitar.

what do you think about this ?








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yes and no. the variety is amazing but the best is more expensive than it has ever been.








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true .....the best will cost ya !

but compare the cost of a new Gibson Les Paul in 1959 to the average wage of the day...

how does that stack up with today ?

i wonder where we could get that info ?

that would be VERY interesting indeed.








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I agree Chuck, 20 years ago you would be hard pressed to find a new guitar that could be setup with low action much less sound good for under $500. Today there are a plethora of guitars sub $500 that are not only playable, but sound pretty damn good too.








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Even though I still think that none of these manufacturers setup the guitars at the factory before shipping like they claim. Unless setup to them constitutes only setting intonation and installing strings. I've never played a guitar with good action straight off the rack. I think it's a conspiracy to make you have to pay GC (or any store) a fee for setup! It could be true... either way, never expect a guitar to be perfect off the wall, because while some can be, they usually aren't.

it seems to me vintage value is a bit of a plague to guitar players, because it is just an additional "collector's fee" to tack on to the price of a quality instrument








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as for the high end guitars being affordable back in the 50's and 60's.....

Fender guitars were designed to be an affordable alternative to the Gibsons of the day.

the whole assembly line method ...bolt on necks, pickguard mounted eletronics ,cheaper materials, ect were not a BETTER way to build guitars ...simply a CHEAPER way.

the guitar for the people so to speak .

soooo...the good stuff was expensive then too !








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I don't know if its the same I think now days its a little higher cause back in the 80's you could get a Gibson LP for about 800 and they go about 2000 now. I mean its close but you add the effert they put in it then and now and it just adds to it being much higher. The qualities are why down and thats with just about every brand out there. Gibson USA aren't made here just put together here. Marshalls are built so cheap they can't handle tubes getting so hot that the circuit board melt.








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I don't know if its the same I think now days its a little higher cause back in the 80's you could get a Gibson LP for about 800 and they go about 2000 now. I mean its close but you add the effert they put in it then and now and it just adds to it being much higher. The qualities are why down and thats with just about every brand out there. Gibson USA aren't made here just put together here. Marshalls are built so cheap they can't handle tubes getting so hot that the circuit board melt.

i wonder what the price comparison for several different Gibsons ,and Fenders would show us.

compare figures in ten year intervals ....1958 ,68 ,78 ,88 ,98,08....and then compare those numbers to the average income at each time.....i wonder what we would find ?

VERRRRYYYYY interesting








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yeah it would be I know a guy that got a custom BC Rich Warlock late 80's for 1200 he was a emt and had money...lol I worked as a floor tiler and didn't...lol








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I remember hear ing my dad say that paying $300 for a guitar might as well have been $3000 back in the day, and now that's what some American guitars are actually selling for. I'd say it's completely relative to average incomes at the time.

i seem to remember the Model 6 Charvel's selling for a grand and change back in the late 80's.
at the time Japanese guitars were not so highly regarded like they are now.

sort of like Korean guitars today ? ? ?

so , the Korea of today is the Japan of the 80's ....at least when it comes to guitar making ?

sooo a comparable Korean neck thru super strat today runs in the $700 - $900 range .

i guess you have to factor in all important data.








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I think I paid 200 for my Kramer striker RR in 87








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cxo wrote:

I remember hear ing my dad say that paying $300 for a guitar might as well have been $3000 back in the day, and now that's what some American guitars are actually selling for. I'd say it's completely relative to average incomes at the time.

i agree with Mr.Poofter......
i think that if all factors are taken into account , we will find that the expensive guitars of today are no more expensive than they were in the "good ol days"

i REALLY do believe that this is a golden age for guitars.............arent we lucky to be alive and playing in this wonderful time ???








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