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Re: gibson or jackson?

Postby Axtklinge » Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:41 am

dude 2 wrote:should i get a jackson v or a les paul?
cuz im reallly confused on which to get :shock: :?:


Well, in my opinion its a very personal choice and you should go to a store and try them both out to see how you feel (or if you're lucky enough try them at some friends house).

I have played them both on many ocasions, and even own one of them for many years.
Both guitars can play the same things or styles of music, they just do it adding a different "personality" to what you play.
Not just by "the looks" but in the tone, sustain, etc.
The Guibson (LP) will probably be heavier than the Jackson (even not knowing what Jackson model you ment to buy).

Perhaps if you tell us what Jackson model you were thinking about, or what you intend to do with the guitar (play in a band? play at home? what kind of music you like? etc...) we could be more helpfull.

In all cases, try them out before you go for it!
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Postby RayLawley » Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:01 pm

Well, kinda depends what you're after...if you want to play face-meltingly fast, the jackson will obviously be more comfortable and accessible above about the 17th fret, but personally I love the les paul, even for shred stuff. I'm no stranger to metal, and I have a 24-fretter and an old miscellaneous brand les paul, and despite the accessibility problem I enjoy playing it just as much. Also, the guitar my stepdad's building for me is a les paul style, but with a neck-through :D
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Postby Brazen Man » Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:04 pm

When you're deciding between Jackson and Les Paul there's a bit of differences between 'em. Fretboard radius, fret profiles, pickups, woods, etc.

The guitar shapes shouldn't be the deciding factors for a genre but what you'd find more comfortable. Look at the flying Vs, they were made since the 50s and there were no metalheads back then but nowadays, certain features are associated with certain shapes.

Try out both and see what feels good to you. If you like the Jackson but don't like the pups change 'em out but if you don't like the neck that won't be so easy to change.

You could have a custom guitar made with all your specs but you gotta know what you want.
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Postby Mushroony » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:24 am

To answer to your question, we should know some things:

- What les paul?
- What Jackson?
- which music do you play
- Do you like thin necks, or do you prefer baseball bats?
- what is your amp? (there's no point in spending 2K on a guitar if you have a spider III)

I've had a couple of Gibson Les Pauls, and i've had a couple of Jacksons, and imo, the Jacksons were alot better quality than the Gibsons (The USA Jacksons). Since i started purchasing USA Jacksons, my Gibsons got unemployed, and i sold them.
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Postby MOSSYPNE » Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:38 pm

LES PAUL, IT ROCKS :D :D :D :D
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Postby mike hays™ » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:50 pm

Brian Krashpad wrote:
chuck wrote:either way , you will be getting a fine guitar ....

and just because the sweet high end Jacksons are made for metal dosent mean they arent good for other stuff too ....

a Ferrari can do 200 mph ... but it can also handle 55 .... and while a Ford Escort can handle the 55mph , it sure cant do the 200.

thats what i think ....

but Gibson , or Jackson .... you cant go wrong with either :)


Nah, if he's playing blues rock or country rock or something, the Jackson'll flat out look funny. Even if it can handle the tones. And if it's got super hot pickups (or especially actives) it may not be able to do those tones very well either. So both from a "fashion" standpoint and a playing standpoint, it depends on what type of music he's playing and what feature the individual Jackson or LP has. Both will probably be good guitars (assuming he doesn't get a dog that slipped past QC or a used one that's been set up wrong or beaten up), but whether it's a good pick for the OP would depend on a bunch of variables we don't know.

For instance, there's a huge difference in a Les Paul with P-90's and a Les Paul with the 496/500 ceramic humbuckers.



even if the guitar looks funny it can still have any sound you want! Jacksons come with EMG's as well as Duncans, and in my opinion, I can get any tone I want with either, especially the Duncans which can have an awesome blues sound. it all comes down to style and personal preference. It really depends on what model you get, how well it plays, and if you like the pickups in it.

i'd just play them both and decide which I like better. personally i'd choose the LP just because I've really been wanting 1 lately! lol
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Re: gibson or jackson?

Postby chuck » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:01 pm

those sweet Epiphone Prophecy Les Pauls and SGs are still on my mind ... i love the Gibson Dirty Fingers pickups !
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Re: gibson or jackson?

Postby mike hays™ » Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:49 pm

I've really been wanting to try those dirty fingers! they sounded pretty sweet on the GW cd review, but I really wanna try them through my JCM 2000!!
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Re: gibson or jackson?

Postby chuck » Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:53 pm

i have a Dirty Fingers in my Gibson SG I , and one in my white Charvel Model 6 ( its hidden under the Jackson pickup cover )

they flat out SCREAM !!!!
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Re: gibson or jackson?

Postby mike hays™ » Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:13 pm

nice, the hidden weapon of mass destruction in disguise as a jackson p-up.
sweet! i'll have to try them soon!!!
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Re: gibson or jackson?

Postby chuck » Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:00 am

the Jackson pu i took out was the creme or the crop of the old Jackson p/u's ...the J-95 . its really similar to the Dirty Fingers , but the D/F just has a little more "oomph"

and getting back to the old USA Jackson Charvel pickups .... they are forgotten jems. they have 2 versions of each p/u ... Alnico and Ceramic magnets.

the J50 is a P.A.F or vintage type ... the J50C has more bite and crunch due to the ceramic magnet.

the J80 and J80C are high output and very crunchy

the J90 and J90C are "ultra high output" and they scream

the J95 is a "high output wide band" pickup that is one of my favorite p/u's from any maker.

these hidden jewels pop up on Ebay ... the J95 is kind of rare. it was only used in 1 pickup guitars like the Model 5A and the Model 88.

the Jackson active electronics in the old Model series Charvels really send these pickups over the top.
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Re: gibson or jackson?

Postby mike hays™ » Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:32 pm

wow, I didn't know Jackson even had any good pickups. I'll have to keep an eye out for those Hidden Treasures!
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Re: gibson or jackson?

Postby chuck » Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:40 pm

those old " J " series pickups from the 80's were wound in house by Abigail Ybarra .... so you know the quality was high .
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Postby chuck » Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:45 pm

Mushroony wrote:To answer to your question, we should know some things:

- What les paul?
- What Jackson?
- which music do you play
- Do you like thin necks, or do you prefer baseball bats?
- what is your amp? (there's no point in spending 2K on a guitar if you have a spider III)

I've had a couple of Gibson Les Pauls, and i've had a couple of Jacksons, and imo, the Jacksons were alot better quality than the Gibsons (The USA Jacksons). Since i started purchasing USA Jacksons, my Gibsons got unemployed, and i sold them.


ya know something ? ... i am a major fan of high gain tube amps , but i must admit that the Spider's have impressed me.
they are fine practice or recording amplifiers in my opinion.
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Re: gibson or jackson?

Postby mike hays™ » Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:07 pm

I would agree, my Ibanez sounded great through a spider III, in fact that was half the reason I bought it! that and it was only $125 and it came with just a dimebucker in the neck, that alone was worth it!
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