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benitosuave

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 Digital effects with tube amps
I haven't really had much opportunity to get to experiment with expensive equiptment, but in the future I'm hoping to eventually get to, but I was curious.
If I got a nice tube amp, you know maybe some fender/orange/marshall or something, would I forfit the warm tube tone if I used digital effects?
Would it be any different for multi/single digital effects?
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Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:44 pm |
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Forzafurioso

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 Re: Digital effects with tube amps
benitosuave wrote:I haven't really had much opportunity to get to experiment with expensive equiptment, but in the future I'm hoping to eventually get to, but I was curious.
If I got a nice tube amp, you know maybe some fender/orange/marshall or something, would I forfit the warm tube tone if I used digital effects?
Would it be any different for multi/single digital effects?
It should be pretty much ok depending on how you use them!
Overdrive/distortion: Crank up the level button to 12 a clock or max that will make the valves in your amp to work harder! Just fine tune the ammount of overdrive with the gain button!
Other effects doesn't have the same impact on the sound so they're pretty safe to use without any risk of messing up your tube sound!
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koffeefrk

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the topic line sounded to me like it ought to be a punch-line.
i still haven't found an affordable digital multi-effects processor, that didn't sound like one.
to me they are a fun toy to practice with, but not practical for stage or studio if you care about your tone.
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The truth of the matter is there are certain effects a tube amp is incapable of processing properly. The sound just turns to unmitigated and unadulterated mud.
Some tube freaks are more self-absorbed and self-righteous than bikers. They give guitarists a bad name. Don't misconstrue my words, though.....There are tube amps I love and own..........BUT........if given the choice of a tube amp or a digital processor, I'll take the processor and cut heads with most anybody.......yeah, I'm talking to you and you and you....etc..........I ain't shy. I didn't become a hero to countless widows and orphans throughout the land overnight, boys and girls......My traxx are posted.
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Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:24 am |
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benitosuave

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hahahahahaha.
I have line 6 spider and I love it. You jsut have to know how to give it that loving touch.
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Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:26 pm |
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ibanezobsessor

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If you do use effects, use them on a clean channel with pedal distortion.
If you use effects on the distortion channel, they will fuck your sound up.
I have a 1988 Laney Pro Tube 100. I've tried effects with it. Recently I have decided to ditch effects and just play either on the high gain or low gain channels... nothing fancy.
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Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:35 pm |
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benitosuave

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ibanezobsessor wrote:If you do use effects, use them on a clean channel with pedal distortion.
If you use effects on the distortion channel, they will fuck your sound up.
I have a 1988 Laney Pro Tube 100. I've tried effects with it. Recently I have decided to ditch effects and just play either on the high gain or low gain channels... nothing fancy.
You probably could also use effects on an overdrive channel but you sound have to use one of those FX send channel thingers rather than just chaining em up and running them through the input
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Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:59 pm |
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Tubeampfreak

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The best way to connect FX to A tube amp is having A Parallel FX installed. This way the dry signal stays within the tubes. You would take your mix control on your FX and set it all the way wet and then adjust how much mix you want at the return control at the amp. I have modded many older tube amps to do this and it works great.
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Caco

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You can use digital effects and they will soun good but digital drives aren't so good(Line 6 POD has simulations whith sound really good but it's used mostly in fx loop). IMO delays, modulations(chorus, flanger), reverbs in digital versions has good sound and wouldn't kill tube sound.
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Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:50 pm |
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sleezyg666

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i have a problem...i used a boss delay pedal on my triple rec and the clean tone is fine...but if i add delay to the distortion it sounds to much on that amp...and when i shut off the pedal...i can still hear the delay repeating in the speakers when i shut it off....what the fuck is with that?....so i tend not to use delays anymore and just plug guitar into amp no fx anymore
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Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:10 am |
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benitosuave

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sleezyg666 wrote:i have a problem...i used a boss delay pedal on my triple rec and the clean tone is fine...but if i add delay to the distortion it sounds to much on that amp...and when i shut off the pedal...i can still hear the delay repeating in the speakers when i shut it off....what the fuck is with that?....so i tend not to use delays anymore and just plug guitar into amp no fx anymore
Really delay should be one of the last FX to your sound, but if you run it through the amp's drive you end up distorting a delayed sound instead of delaying a distorted sound.
See if there is like an FX send something or other and play with that.
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Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:16 am |
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sleezyg666

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guitarfreakyman

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that and what are you using to power your delay pedal? i know with my rig, if i daisy chain my delay, you can hear it literally buzzing
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Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:35 pm |
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it's safest to put stuff like delay / echo / reverb / EQ ect in the FX loop where stuff like wah / com / boost or OD should go infront ... well you don't have to do it that way, but that seems to be the way most guitarists like the sounds they get out of the FX.
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i feel if u use any type of pedal with more distortion in a marshall it makes a big mud sound! marshalls have PLENTY of distortion built in them to begin with...y mess it up? as far as digital effects processors go i think they are overated and sound to junky anyways...
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