How come there is more than one way to play the same chord. For instance there is more than one way to play a B major. Does the sound change when you play it one way vs another. If so then how can it be the same note?

mufan wrote:

How come there is more than one way to play the same chord. For instance there is more than one way to play a B major. Does the sound change when you play it one way vs another. If so then how can it be the same note?

There are many positions to playing a chord, The sound won't change to much, the only real difference is that it changes octaves, now if your talking about totally altering the voicing then yes there will be a huge different (5th on bottom etc.)








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It changes in the fact that there is in most cases 2 of the same note and there is different ways to play them like you can have D#/B which means the D# is the bass note but it still is a B major if it has all the notes that the B major has which is B D# F# there is many ways to play chords you have open chords, movable Chords, Triads Chords. Major Chords are made of a 1 3 5 of the major scale just as the Minor Chords are made of 1 3 5 of the minor scale.








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It changes in the fact that there is in most cases 2 of the same note and there is different ways to play them like you can have D#/B which means the D# is the bass note but it still is a B major if it has all the notes that the B major has which is B D# F# there is many ways to play chords you have open chords, movable Chords, Triads Chords. Major Chords are made of a 1 3 5 of the major scale just as the Minor Chords are made of 1 3 5 of the minor scale.

ugh. that hurt my brain








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My knowledge in musical theory is not as great as Todd's, but this is how I usually try to think:

Simply put: You can play a chord in so many positions on a guitar because you can play the same note in so many positions.

For instance you can play the same e in the following positions:

1st string open
2nd string, 5th fret
3rd string, 9th fret
4th string, 14th fret
5th string 19th fret
6th string 24th fret

On a piano, it's much simpler: One note - one position. But you can still play a regular chord in three positions on a piano. That's because a regular chord is made up of three notes: Root, third and fifth, and it's simply a matter of what note you put first.

So a C major chord, which has a C as root, E as third and G as fifth can be played:

C + E + G
E + G + C
G + C + E

On a messing-everything-up-and-making-it-complicated-just-to-be-a-jerk note: This is of course very simplified, and I am talking about one hand (right hand) chords here. You can make it a lot more complicated by playing the notes in totally different octaves. And I have of course forgotten all about septima, nona, undecima, duodecima, diminished... blah blah blah...








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mufan wrote:

How come there is more than one way to play the same chord. For instance there is more than one way to play a B major. Does the sound change when you play it one way vs another. If so then how can it be the same note?

To give you a simple answer, it all comes down to usability....

There are 12 notes in all western music. The guitar is laid out and tuned in a unique way, where each string is a specific interval to an adjacent string (EADGBE = 4th, 4th, 4th, 3rd, 4th). This creates a pattern organization for your fretboard that lends itself as a polyphonic (can play more than one note at a time) in any key. The guitar was laid out in this way in order to provide four fingered fretting (say that three times fast! LOL), which is the most practical polyphony. So to sum up, it's all about SPEED, baby! The guitar has the same notes in different locations on the fretboard in order to provide the quickest interface from the musician's brain to his fingers!

The reason the same chord played in a different inversions and positions sounds different, even though they are the same notes, is because with each inversion, a different note is emphasized, thus providing a different "flavor" of that chord. Then of course, there are octaves of that chord which can be higher or lower in pitch, as well as octaves for each inversion.

Hope that helps you!








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BrotherLawson wrote:

you guys seriously make me feel dumb.


And yes, I hate you.

Don't know if that comment includes me, but if it makes you any happier you're probably a ten times better guitar player than I am; I suck at playing fast and on time.








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Reading this kind of stuff just makes me wish I paid attention to chord names. I know I can play several variations of any chord, all over the board, but I have no idea what the name's of the stupid things are half the time. You start throwing 3rds and 5ths and 7ths and 99ths, and suspended's at me, and I just automatically turn on the selective hearing. I need to get a book too really, if I didn't want to get too far behind.

cxo wrote:

Reading this kind of stuff just makes me wish I paid attention to chord names. I know I can play several variations of any chord, all over the board, but I have no idea what the name's of the stupid things are half the time. You start throwing 3rds and 5ths and 7ths and 99ths, and suspended's at me, and I just automatically turn on the selective hearing. I need to get a book too really, if I didn't want to get too far behind.

+1 for selective hearing
Grumpy, I doubt I'm better. But like the song says, "I can fake it with the best of anyone."








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BrotherLawson wrote:

cxo wrote:

Reading this kind of stuff just makes me wish I paid attention to chord names. I know I can play several variations of any chord, all over the board, but I have no idea what the name's of the stupid things are half the time. You start throwing 3rds and 5ths and 7ths and 99ths, and suspended's at me, and I just automatically turn on the selective hearing. I need to get a book too really, if I didn't want to get too far behind.

+1 for selective hearing
Grumpy, I doubt I'm better. But like the song says, "I can fake it with the best of anyone."

Well I can play some slow stuff, and have a wide taste in music so I cheat myself through a lot of genres. But I'm not especially good at anything, and really crappy at sherding, and that's what counts, isn't it?








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Grumpy wrote:

BrotherLawson wrote:

cxo wrote:

Reading this kind of stuff just makes me wish I paid attention to chord names. I know I can play several variations of any chord, all over the board, but I have no idea what the name's of the stupid things are half the time. You start throwing 3rds and 5ths and 7ths and 99ths, and suspended's at me, and I just automatically turn on the selective hearing. I need to get a book too really, if I didn't want to get too far behind.

+1 for selective hearing
Grumpy, I doubt I'm better. But like the song says, "I can fake it with the best of anyone."

Well I can play some slow stuff, and have a wide taste in music so I cheat myself through a lot of genres. But I'm not especially good at anything, and really crappy at sherding, and that's what counts, isn't it?

Here here. I'm not a sherder either, I really have a serious love for rhythm. I'm capable of modest solo's but it's just not my forte.

cxo wrote:

Grumpy wrote:

BrotherLawson wrote:

cxo wrote:

Reading this kind of stuff just makes me wish I paid attention to chord names. I know I can play several variations of any chord, all over the board, but I have no idea what the name's of the stupid things are half the time. You start throwing 3rds and 5ths and 7ths and 99ths, and suspended's at me, and I just automatically turn on the selective hearing. I need to get a book too really, if I didn't want to get too far behind.

+1 for selective hearing
Grumpy, I doubt I'm better. But like the song says, "I can fake it with the best of anyone."

Well I can play some slow stuff, and have a wide taste in music so I cheat myself through a lot of genres. But I'm not especially good at anything, and really crappy at sherding, and that's what counts, isn't it?

Here here. I'm not a sherder either, I really have a serious love for rhythm. I'm capable of modest solo's but it's just not my forte.

It's not even my five-te.








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Puddleglum wrote:

cxo wrote:

Grumpy wrote:

BrotherLawson wrote:

cxo wrote:

Reading this kind of stuff just makes me wish I paid attention to chord names. I know I can play several variations of any chord, all over the board, but I have no idea what the name's of the stupid things are half the time. You start throwing 3rds and 5ths and 7ths and 99ths, and suspended's at me, and I just automatically turn on the selective hearing. I need to get a book too really, if I didn't want to get too far behind.

+1 for selective hearing
Grumpy, I doubt I'm better. But like the song says, "I can fake it with the best of anyone."

Well I can play some slow stuff, and have a wide taste in music so I cheat myself through a lot of genres. But I'm not especially good at anything, and really crappy at sherding, and that's what counts, isn't it?

Here here. I'm not a sherder either, I really have a serious love for rhythm. I'm capable of modest solo's but it's just not my forte.

It's not even my five-te.

Look at you trying to be my competition... How dare you!

Everyone on GML says they're not sherders








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