My Peavy 210 amp dies after 5 minutes. What gives? Bad capacitor, eh?

is it blowing a fuse ?
if yes...when is the fuse blowing?

oh...this is very important...is it a tube amp ?

let me know....we can trouble shoot this baby.
i just happen to have a couple of my tube amp books right here....handy reference information.

this should be fun.








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you have tube books? i ought to get a few of those myself

guitarfreakyman wrote:

you have tube books? i ought to get a few of those myself

i have tube amp repair books,tube voltage charts,schematics....blah blah blah.....stuff i need for building MY ultimate amp.
i am no electrical engineer or anything ...just a typical guy who digs tube amps and wants to design and build exactly what he wants.
i have been buying the stuff i need to do that....tools,the above mentioned reference material, and parts.

if you are interested , i can send you a list of the books with the best info.

just let me know








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i just want a better understanding of how they work. what i'd really love is an in depth guide to the ins and outs of my ibanez?

there are some good web sites you can browse around for guitar and amp knowledge.

www.torresengineering.com is a wonderful site.

www.amptone.com has tons of links to useful knowledge.

as for the Ibanez......what do want to know about it?








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everything

guitarfreakyman wrote:

everything

you mean WHY they did things the way they did ?

or do you mean what materials they used ?

wiring diagrams ?

the Ibanez site has some info on the new stuff...but not a lot on older models








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hey chuck I would like to know the books also. So I can figure out whats wrong with my laney tube amp. I think I have something loose in which the tube goes in one of the sockets for the pre amp tubes. All the tubes are new and so are the fuses. So it would be nice to figure why it isn't loud when using the sends only and sounds really bad when using the inputs. Don't know what the actual names of the part but a friends said that I could tightin them down.

But with this question being asked if it is a tube amp could mean its time for new Power amp tubes. My Bravo 112 did that when it finally died.

straitjacket85 wrote:

hey chuck I would like to know the books also. So I can figure out whats wrong with my laney tube amp. I think I have something loose in which the tube goes in one of the sockets for the pre amp tubes. All the tubes are new and so are the fuses. So it would be nice to figure why it isn't loud when using the sends only and sounds really bad when using the inputs. Don't know what the actual names of the part but a friends said that I could tightin them down.

But with this question being asked if it is a tube amp could mean its time for new Power amp tubes. My Bravo 112 did that when it finally died.

here are 3 good amp books :

1. Tube Guitar Amplifier Essentials by Gerald Webber published by Kendrick Books

2. The Guitar Amp Handbook by Dave Hunter published by Backbeat Books

3. The Tube Amp Book by Aspen Pittman published by Groove Tubes (?)

these books have a lot of useful information about maintaining and servicing and even building tube amps.
i have other books ...but these 3 are here at home with me.
i will post the info on those other ones soon.

also www.torresengineering.com has a ton of tone information available.
www.amptone.com is a great site to checkout.








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straitjacket85 wrote:

hey chuck I would like to know the books also. So I can figure out whats wrong with my laney tube amp. I think I have something loose in which the tube goes in one of the sockets for the pre amp tubes. All the tubes are new and so are the fuses. So it would be nice to figure why it isn't loud when using the sends only and sounds really bad when using the inputs. Don't know what the actual names of the part but a friends said that I could tightin them down.

But with this question being asked if it is a tube amp could mean its time for new Power amp tubes. My Bravo 112 did that when it finally died.

YOU COULD ALSO KILL YOURSELF!!! TUBE AMPS ARE VERY DANGEROUS AND UNLESS YOU HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE, SKILLS AND EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH HIGH VOLTAGE ELECTRONIC CIRCUITS I SUGGEST YOU TAKE IT TO A PROFESSIONAL. AT THE VERY MINIMUM YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW TO USE TEST EQUIPMENT AND DISCHARGE POWER SUPPLY CAPACITORS SAFELY. A COURSE IN ELECTRONICS REPAIR IS A BIG HELP. THERE ARE SO MANY VARIABLES WHEN IT COMES TO GUITARS/AMP DESIGNS AND COMPONENTS THAT ITS PRETTY NIEVE FOR SOMEONE TO THINK THEY CAN JUST BUY A FEW BOOKS AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET "THE ULTIMATE TONE". THIS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN FIND IN PRINT ALONE. THE BOOKS ARE NECESSARY AND ARE VERY VALUABLE REFERENCES BUT IT TAKES YEARS OF EXPERIMENTING WITH DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS OF GUITARS/PICKUPS/CABLES/AMPS/TUBES/CABS/SPEAKERS TO EVEN BEGIN TO GRASP WHATS GOING ON. EXPERIENCE IS PRICELESS. MANY TIMES SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD THINK WOULD NOT SOUND GOOD ENDS UP SOUNDING AMAZING AND VICE VERSA. EVERY LINK IN THE GUITAR/AMP CHAIN MAKES A DIFFERENCE. YOUHAVE TO TRY EVERYTHING BEFORE YOU CAN CALL YOURSELF AN AUTHORITY AND OF COURSE THE END RESULT IS SUBJECTIVE. WHAT YOU THINK IS "THE ULTIMATE TONE" I MAY THINK IS HOGWASH AND VICE VERSA. GOOD LUCK!








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jgtr07 wrote:

straitjacket85 wrote:

hey chuck I would like to know the books also. So I can figure out whats wrong with my laney tube amp. I think I have something loose in which the tube goes in one of the sockets for the pre amp tubes. All the tubes are new and so are the fuses. So it would be nice to figure why it isn't loud when using the sends only and sounds really bad when using the inputs. Don't know what the actual names of the part but a friends said that I could tightin them down.

But with this question being asked if it is a tube amp could mean its time for new Power amp tubes. My Bravo 112 did that when it finally died.

YOU COULD ALSO KILL YOURSELF!!! TUBE AMPS ARE VERY DANGEROUS AND UNLESS YOU HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE, SKILLS AND EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH HIGH VOLTAGE ELECTRONIC CIRCUITS I SUGGEST YOU TAKE IT TO A PROFESSIONAL. AT THE VERY MINIMUM YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW TO USE TEST EQUIPMENT AND DISCHARGE POWER SUPPLY CAPACITORS SAFELY. A COURSE IN ELECTRONICS REPAIR IS A BIG HELP. THERE ARE SO MANY VARIABLES WHEN IT COMES TO GUITARS/AMP DESIGNS AND COMPONENTS THAT ITS PRETTY NIEVE FOR SOMEONE TO THINK THEY CAN JUST BUY A FEW BOOKS AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET "THE ULTIMATE TONE". THIS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN FIND IN PRINT ALONE. THE BOOKS ARE NECESSARY AND ARE VERY VALUABLE REFERENCES BUT IT TAKES YEARS OF EXPERIMENTING WITH DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS OF GUITARS/PICKUPS/CABLES/AMPS/TUBES/CABS/SPEAKERS TO EVEN BEGIN TO GRASP WHATS GOING ON. EXPERIENCE IS PRICELESS. MANY TIMES SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD THINK WOULD NOT SOUND GOOD ENDS UP SOUNDING AMAZING AND VICE VERSA. EVERY LINK IN THE GUITAR/AMP CHAIN MAKES A DIFFERENCE. YOUHAVE TO TRY EVERYTHING BEFORE YOU CAN CALL YOURSELF AN AUTHORITY AND OF COURSE THE END RESULT IS SUBJECTIVE. WHAT YOU THINK IS "THE ULTIMATE TONE" I MAY THINK IS HOGWASH AND VICE VERSA. GOOD LUCK!

YES !! tube amps CAN be VERY dangerous....if you read ANY of the books i have mentioned , they always start off with that warning.

and while being careless while working on tube amps can harm or kill you...so can working on your house or car...ect.
IF you actually read the service material , you will know what to watch out for and how to service your amp safely.
of course some people are not ment to change a light bulb....i trust you know who you are ,and if you are one of these people, let a professional handle all repair work for you.

and yes...a great sounding amp is a subjective thing indeed.
it is not just cold hard figures and facts.
but great tone is not sonic Alchemy....true, SOME people may not have what it takes to build their own amps...but remember, some of us DO !
what can it hurt to learn a lot about guitar tone, and see what we the players can do to improve it ?
i for one have spent a long time finding out what i want from MY perfect amp , and what i dont want.
i have also taken the time , and put the effort into LEARNING how amps are built , and why things work the way they do.
now with all of that being said...maybe my project wont pan out in the end...but maybe it will !
i just know that i dont mind taking a chance , i am not afraid of failure....at least i have the stones to try.

there are a LOT of like minded guitar players out there.....the number of DIY amp kits available today is amazing , so SOMEBODY has to be buying them.

i dont know your background...but to me low watt ,single channel tube amps are actually pretty simple creatures.
if you want complicated...try fooling with solid state or digital stuff !!!

oh yea...i DO understand how cables , speakers , pickups ,strings , PICKS , cabinets , our hands , the guitar , the volume and tone pots,and everything else ALL combine with the amp to make our tone.

we guitar players are a lot smarter than what SOME may think...and i think its cool that a growing number of us are showing an interest in how our equipment is made , and how our ideas can improve it.
if we all just sit around being afraid to try , how will we grow and improve ?








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hey guys...here is one of the books i mentioned on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Guitar-Amp-Handbook-Tube-Amplifier-Book-Electric-Sound_W0QQitemZ230197431522QQihZ013QQcategoryZ38100QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem








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hey here is a copy of the tube amp book....

http://cgi.ebay.com/THE-TUBE-AMP-BOOK-2-BY-ASPEN-PITTMAN_W0QQitemZ260187684322QQihZ016QQcategoryZ38074QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem








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thanks chuck and I know that the Capacitors can hold voltage for up to a year and zap ya if your not careful...lol I had a buddy that got zap by the Capacitor and he said that it was about a year that it had no power to it at all. So I know there is risk. But if it is easy I want to be able to do then send it to a amp guy and pay them for something I could do. Most of them charge 50 buxs just to have them look at it.